James PATTERSON Palm Beach PD and prevailed upon him to have the investigation called off. Epstein had met Alessi a ined, and made no g to get t a luncheonette, he expla Alessi had agreed to pay back the money. At the time, it s a busy man. He was goin sense to prosecute. Epstein wa e police into his home to install his money. But he did invite th meras. [his was a service that the Palm Beach PD provided ly one with access to the foot- the ca (though Epstein would be the on police had noticed a group of ed to be camped out at the + while they were there, the age). Bu young women who seem attractive house. The group included Sarah Kellen None of the girls was 4 relative 0 caught the cops’ attention. And now, as the search continues, of the very same girls. On Epstein's desk, the officers transcript. The thing is, Epstein house ha as though they've to have been remo “(Judging] by t Chief Reiter will say 10 his one probably had cleaned it up 4 bit.” Maybe there's nothing too surprising abou Reiter’s team knows that Epstein’s gotten wind of tion. What is surprising is that for a house that’s b there’s so much left lyin In fact, the oddest t and Nadia Marcinkova. { Epstein — that fact had the cops see photographs Gnd Alison’s high school the detectives cant shake the feeling that the arrival. Shelves look 5 been tidied up for their been emptied, and several photographs appear ved from the walls. he condition of the plac deposition for B.B. v g around.

CHAPTER 18 05 h police officers execute a searc Laura Johnson, at Jeffrey Epstein Inside the house, an employee is ey ask him, politely, to hang uP, p the winding stairs to the homes sutside and reads the warrant, out ‘le another officer videotapes them. 2y says as he hands over the war- 1, I will leave a list of what items k that you don’t answer your tele- = ga conversation leman was havin So Pm sure he’s trying to call and 4 nas will be told what was going © 78 FirtHy Ricw Inside the house, detectives see the pink-and-green couch that Mary and other girls had described. They see photos of naked young girls—in some cases, girls they’ve spoken to about Epstein. They also find message pads on which are written first names, dates, and numbers for the girls. Sometimes there are notes to go with the names and num- bers: “I have girls for him.” Or “I have 2 girls for him.” These notes are signed by one Sarah Kellen. Epstein’s house has a strangely antiseptic quality. Some of the bedrooms look almost like doctors’ offices. In the bathroom off Epstein’s bedroom, there’s a massage table as well as stands holding strange machines, which looked like something yowd find in a dermatologist’s office. In a wood-colored armoire beside Epstein’s bed, they see a bottle of peach-flavored Joy Jelly. In the bathroom, there are soaps shaped like penises and vaginas, bottles of Mango Mist, more Joy Jelly, and boxes of tampons. The officers find stacks of UFC videos and DVDs of Rock

CHAPTER 18 Michael Reiter: October 2005 n October 20, Palm Beach police officers execute a search warrant, signed by Judge Laura Johnson, at Jeffrey Epstein'’s home on El Brillo Way. Inside the house, an employee 1s on the phone with Epstein. They ask him, politely, to hang up. g stairs to the home's Then, guns drawn, they walk up the windin second story. Detective Recarey rem loud, to Epstein’s houseman Ww “This is your Copy, Recarey says rant. “When we are conclud 2? | would ask that you don't answ we've taken, okay phone. | know that the gentleman was having a co with Mr. Epstein at the time. So I’m sure he’s tryin fnd out what's going 0”. He will be told what was goin soon as we're done. Okay?” ains outside and reads the warrant, out E hile another officer videotapes them. — as he hands overt the wal- j ed, I will leave a list of what items 7 er your tele- j nversation q g to call and © g on as Inside the house, det that Mary and other git naked young girls—in sc Epstein. They also find n names, dates, and numbe Sometimes there are bers: “I have girls for him These notes are signe Epstein’s house has ; the bedrooms look almo: off Epstein’s bedroom, tl holding strange machin¢ find in a dermatologist’s : In a wood-colored a1 bottle of peach-flavored soaps shaped like penis« more Joy Jelly, and boxes The officers find stacl and other B-list movies. They also find receip' SlaveCraft: Roadmaps for On the first floor, det q hidden in clocks. On thr 4 photogr

rERSON FirtHy Ricu sh lained that hi . - o rst . ° _ by other girls, including Wendy Dobbs. Could Wend when Epstein’s penis was antied P a Pp em Probably not. Almost certainly not. But again " ™ ve ; ry , _ in at cae also in line with what the police had hear ; , what she said was she] called Epstein’s pents Detective rom other girls | Recarey and his team h | tein would lf — : on the investigation that Officer ver r- ecepuonal work ving sex and prou ispla ad started. g | P y i piay It was enough, Reiter decided . re. [Alison] stated during one ee , to cause a judge to issue a +h she provided a massage to la [sic] Marcinkova, was also massage in which Marcinkova 7’s breasts and kiss for Epstein his massage, Epstein grabbed 7 onto her stomach on the mas- 4 : ed his penis into her vagina: ’ n to pump his penis in her q r er this. She said her head was 3 ‘ rcibly, as he continued to pump q ” and Epstein stopped. She told o have his penis inside of her. de of her and apologized for his tid her a thousand dollars for . a knows he still displays her pho- 4 E [S€. been bad enough. But what hap- — ole other level. She'd been caught 3 vas hardly a felony offense. Itdidnt © 3 ortant respects, Alison's statement — with statements they'd been given © 4 [7 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009132

JaMES PATTERSON Epstein’s penis was deformed. [She] explained that his penis by other girls, includi was oval shaped. [She] claimed when Epstein’s penis was Probably nat. sonal erect, it was thick toward the bottom but was thin and small also in line with what 2 toward the head portion. [She] called Epstein’s penis Detective Recare “egg-shaped.” [She] stated Epstein would photograph Mar- on the investigation ee cinkova and her naked and having sex and proudly display } It was enough oe the photographs within the home. [Alison] stated during one P| Bh warrant visit to Epstein’s house in which she provided a massage to : ae Epstein, his female friend, Nada [sic] Marcinkova, was also 4 ql present. [Alison] provided the massage in which Marcinkova a and her would fondle each other's breasts and kiss for Epstein to enjoy. Towards the end of this massage, Epstein grabbed [Alison] and turned her over onto her stomach on the mas- sage table and forcibly inserted his penis into her vagina: [Alison] stated Epstein began to pump his penis in her vagina. [She] became upset over this. She said her head was being held against the table forcibly, as he continued to pump inside her. She screamed “No!” and Epstein stopped. She told him that she did not want to have his penis inside of her. Epstein did not ejaculate inside of her and apologized for his actions and subsequently paid her a thousand dollars for that visit. [Alison] stated she knows he still displays her pho- tographs through ou

CHAPTER I7 hia, Detectives Recarey and Daw- with Alison. It's been exactly one and once again, she’s willing to talk. her sworn taped statement. e’s been going to Epstein’s house . slow start, she says. She received rst session, during which she had on. Still, at the end of the session, aber. sr Much heavier, as Detective Recarey — at during her many visits 4 routine was ein, he wrote in his report. and get naked in the bedroom. She ck massage. Epstein would roll on 74 Fittuy Ricwu to his back and allow her to massage his chest area. [Alison] stated Epstein would then begin to masturbate himself and at the same time would insert his fingers in her vagina and masturbate her with his fingers. [Alison] explained Epstein would continue this process until he ejaculated. He would then utilize a vibrator/mas- sager on her vagina until [Alison] climaxed. [Alison] advised that during her frequent visits, Epstein asked for her real age, [and Alison] stated she was sixteen. Epstein advised her not to tell anyone her real age. [Alison] advised that things escalated within the home as Epstein would instruct and pay [Alison] to have intercourse with his female friend, Nada Marcinkova [sic]. [Alison] explained the intercourse included using strap on dildos, large rubber penis'[sic] and other devices that Epstein had at his disposal. Epstein would watch them have intercourse and masturbate himself. Occasion- ally, Epstein would then join in during the female on female intercou

CHAPTER I7 Alison: October 11, 2005 nthia, Detectives Recarey and Daw- Alison. It’s been exactly one g to talk. fter speaking with Cy son meet up, once again, with month since her arrest, and once again, she’s willin e obtaining her sworn taped statement. Alison is eighteen, but she’s been going to Epstein’s house since 2002. Things got off to a slow start, she says. She received red dollars for her first session, during which she had They have no troubl two hund her bra off but her underwear on. Still, at Epstein had asked for her number. Then the sessions got heavier. Muc already knew. [Alison] stated that during established between her and Epstein, he wrote 0 his report. e and get naked in the bedroom. She She would enter the hous Epstein would roll on would then start with a back massage. 14 the end of the session, | h heavier, as Detective Recarey ~ her many visits a routine was — to his back and allow he stated Epstein would the the same time would it masturbate her with his [Alison] explained 1 until he ejaculated. He sager on her vagina unti that during her frequen age, land Alison] stated. not to tell anyone her re escalated within the hom [Alison] to have interco Marcinkova [sic]. [Alisor using strap on dildos, devices that Epstein had them have intercourse « ally, Epstein would then intercourse and provide cinkova. This occurred d years of age. [Alison] advised this years. The routine beca assistant Sarah would tei in the Town of Palm Bec for her

CHAPTER I6 ith Francine, the police drive to re to see Cynthia Selleck, who's according to the probable-cause ) is preparing in order to obtain ynthia was sixteen when Wendy a. ement, she. tells the police that chool. She says that Wendy had x for her first visit to Epstein .d up going to the house “a lot : ‘the past two years.” The affidavit itifying details, and dialogue have been : i2 Fittuy Ricwu She considered Epstein a pervert, and he kept pushing to go Jurther and further until [Cynthia] explained she would keep telling him she had a boyfriend. Only recently, Cynthia says, did she begin to remove her clothes in the course of giving Epstein massages. ‘Jeif would try to get away with more and more on each mas- sage, she tells the cops. Still, Sarah had Cynthia’s cell phone number, and Sarah would call whenever Epstein was in Palm Beach to make an appointment for “work.” Each time she went, Sarah would meet her at the kitchen door area. She would bring her upstairs and prepare the massage table. [Cynthia] advised Epstein would ask her questions about herself. Epstein knew she was a soccer 4 ie player and would be attending [a nearby] university. a The cops want to know: Did Epstein know her real age? 4 ; [Cynthia] stated Epstein did and didn’t care. The most recent massage she provided was on October 1, 2005. ee hg! -_ Hee wee OT ~ 1 w ie A October 1. That’s less than a week ago. What the cops know now is that Epstein’s still at it. What they’re about to

She considered Epstei further and further ur telling him she had al | Only recently, Cynt q clothes in the course of ¢ CHAP TER 16 | | ‘Jeff would try to get ; , sage,” she tells the cops. 2 Still, Sarah had Cy would call whenever EF; Oe appointment for “work.” Fach time she went, . door area. She woulda Cynthia: October 6, 2005 i | massage table. [Cynt, h Francine, the police driveto = a questions about hers hree days after meeting wit | Boca Raton. They're there to see Cynthia Selleck, who's : = player and would be ai the probable-cause | eighteen years old* But according to affidavit that the Palm Beach PD is preparing in order to obtain rest warrant for Epstein, Cynthia was sixteen when Wendy | a The cops want to kno an ar Dobbs first took her to meet him. , ____ [Cynthia] stated Epstei During a sworn taped statement, she tells the police that { 2 massage she provided \ she'd met Wendy at her high school. She says that Wendy had 4 4 recruited her and prepped her for her first visit to Epstein's 4 i October 1. house. And she says she'd ended up going to the house “a lot of : M _ That’s less than a wee ast two years.” The affidavit 7 | What the cops know 1 times to provide massages OVET the p 4 ‘a What they’re about to states. | hay ifying details, and dialogue have beet oe * Cynthia Selleck’s name, some ident changed. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009127

*-ERSON ‘verbal disagreement” —with d. Gone down to the kitchen sndy had told her, “tell him to id also told her, “The more you d to return to the house on El enny upstairs and into the mas- e massage table, laid out the oils e room wearing only a towel. it jeans. She had a tight belt on. Spstein still made a grab for her his back and grabbed for her et again. But this time, she was e leaving. She never did go back e, she has one more thing to tell school had been there on the day sin. Kristina. And later, Kristina problem” with Epstein. g up all the time. And the detec- team to another. And every time, ~ e girls are approached by wendy | | 70 Firtuy Ricw nae They drive over to Epstein’s house. After a short wait j the anche mylae some milk and cereal, if they feel hu y_ they're walked upstairs. Epstein’s there, waiting =niee i towel. semnerinnies with a vibrator. Sometimes the irls . com. mend their friends, and for this they receive a oman _ * None " the girls comes from money. And none athe has en trained as a masseuse. Then again, how cou become a licensed massage apprentice in Florida, wae to . eighteen years old, at le — ast, and have a high school diploma /] HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009126

JAMES PATTERSON Dobbs. They drive ove: the kitchen — maybe sc and this had led to a fight—a “verbal disagreement” — with Epstein. She'd left with and told Wendy, “Let’s go!” “If youre uncomfortable,’ out getting paid. Gone down to the kitchen they're walked upstai ait towel. Sometimes witk Wendy had told her, tell him to mend their friends, anc None of the girls cc stop, and he will.” On the other hand, Wendy had also told her, “The more you ; 4 been trained as a mass: do, the more you get paid.” ; become a licensed mas: o return to the house on El ca eighteen years old, at A few weeks later, she agreed t or GED. Brillo. ain Sarah had taken Jenny upstairs and into the mas- Once ag ter bedroom. Sarah had set up the massage table, laid out the oils am that Jenny would use. Then Epstein had entered the room wearing only a towel. Jenny had been wearing tight jeans. She had a tight belt on. pstein still made a grab for her his back and grabbed for her fh ia én oe me to le a gy ee ee 8 ro bi. i er sa 2 . rf ~ ee She kept the jeans on, though E buttocks. Then he rolled onto breasts. Jenny became upset yet again. But this time, she was id two hundred dollars before leaving. She nevet did go back pa she has one more thing to tell to the house. But, like Francine, the detectives. Another girl from her high schoo of her second visit with Epstein. Kri d “a problem” with Epstein. the time. And the detec | had been there on the day ; stina. And later, Kristina told J

Fitrryy RicwH rERSON hem inside. She introduces Just as she did with Mary, a woman named Sarah had taken 's them rer. Jenny is sixteen years old. table, they see that she’s ner d fidgeting, she tells them that Francine upstairs and into a bedroom. Then Epstein had entered the room, wearing only a towel. " She kept her clothes on during the massage. She advised house. But nothing much happened. some time in the kitchen 1s all. sometime during the massage, Epstein grabbed her buttocks and pulled her close to him. Francine said she was [made] uncomfortable by the incident involving Jeff. At the conclu- “But really, I just want to sion of the massage she was paid $200.00 for the massage. e says. You have our numbers. But “Do you have any formal training in massages?” the offi- : [a4 Ou : g else, you'll find that we're very cers ask. “No,” says Francine. : | But she does have one more thing to tell them. Sarah’s been calling Francine’s cell phone. a It could mean any number of things. The police know already | that Epstein's caught wind of their investigation. Now it appears ve Michael Dawson have better a | who tells them that a year : he’s doing something about it, or at least he’s delegating the » ,a ir WwW Aa Pyeal "i knew from high school — responsibility. This troubles the cops. But then, on that same ne she kne a 4 day, they get one more break: Jenny calls and says that without illo Way. 4 seventeen at the time. ee / a sworn statement. The officers her parents

them at th them to her husband and d Sitting down at the dining yous. In between biting her yes, she’s She met Epstein’s chet and sp Then she left. P Jenny, if you remember anything e ut the whole thing behind me.” James PATTERSON e front door and invites them inside. She introduces aughter. Jenny 1s sixteen years old. om table, they see that she’s ner- ro that lip and fidgeting, she tells them been to Jeffrey Epsteins house. othing much happened. Wendy took her there once. But n the kitchen is all. ent some time in she says. “But really, I just want to “I get what youre asking,” “You have our numbers. But “Okay,” the officers tell her. Ise, youll find that we're very good listeners.” One down. Five to go. e Recarey and Detective Michael Dawson have better rl who tells them that a year knew from high school — Detectiv luck the next day with Francine, a gl earlier, Wendy Dobbs—someone she drove her to the house on El Brillo Way. ncine would have been seventeen at sworn statemen Fra the time. Now she’s willing to make a noted: She was told she could make money working for Jeff. She was told she would have to provide a massage for Jeff.... She was brought to the kitchen area by [Dobbs]. They met with the house chef who was already in the Kitchen area. Francine stated [Wendy] would wait for her in the kitchen. t. The officers j Just as she did wit Francine upstairs and the room, wearing onl She kept her cloth ; sometime during th ! Fi and pulled

TERSON You do what you do. You know, d of the block if youd like. Or yond what— but again, youre ve been pretty forthright with r options for your future. And iously is make a couple of calls to a couple of your, you know, == CHAPTER I5 , and my parents really don’t get out that | ante hoo ———— : Michael Reiter: October 3, 2005 th me at the moment, and I don't § : ls el eid ai hief Reiter sifts through the evidence: information about Ng underage girls—six of them—whom Wendy Dobbs pro- 5 4 cured for Epstein. Phone numbers pulled from the trash 4 q on El Brillo. An arrest report for Alison, the girl who'd been if caught with a dime bag of weed. a She'd told Detective Recarey about an encounter that sounded very much like a rape. Soon Reiter will ask a judge for a warrant. But not yet. There’s | © more footwork to do, and Reiter calls Detective Joe Recarey into ; 4 his office. . . 7 Later that day, Detective Recarey and Sergeant George Frick | 4trive at the home of a girl named Jenny.* An older woman greets Se A ee } . ; aC ) P ‘ . . _~ Jenny’s, Francine’s, and Kristina’s names, some identifying details, and | dialogue have been changed. : It 67 66 % HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009122

JAMES PATTERSON adult, okay? You're nineteen. You do what you do. You know, we can drop you off at the end of the block if you'd like. Or we can cushion the blow beyond what—but again, youre helping us at this point. We've been pretty forthright with you on what ions for your future. And what we'd like you with us this evenin these other girls. DOBBS: I’m not really on a.. along right now ..- FRICK: So you'd preter DOBBS: If they found e other stuff. . . happy with me a going to piss ‘€ is going on, our opt to do obviously 1s make a couple of calls ou know, g to talk to a couple of your, y Me and my parents really don’t get that— out that 1 was—If they foun Tmactually stripping NOW. --- t the moment, and | dont m off even d out that | was into som. So they re not exactly want to do anything that’s furthermore. f i Michael Reiter: Oc hief Reiter sifts underage girls- cured for Epste _ on El Brillo. An arre > caught with a dime be ‘ She'd told Detectiv | very much like a rape q Soon Reiter will as ' more footwork to do “his office. | ; Later that day, De ‘altive at the home of < a i ay ie S, Francine’s, anc dialogue have been cha: HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009121

FirtHy Ricu rERSON | kay? Now, you came This is what we'd like to do: We would like to reach out to shes dati some of your ex-friends and [unintelligible] talk to them. Now, the question is, do we think that they are currently still working for Jeff, in which case they would make a phone call The question we have for you ue cooperating with us and try f? ist Je to help me in the long to Jeff? Or can we just kinda show up and, you know, have y “_ ccond-degree felony you make a call as we're standing outside and say: “Hey, you litted to as _ . j know, these guys wanna talk to you, and I’ve already told em everything?” Our goal is to make a better case against Jeff, all right? ~ RECAREY: With your cooperation. FRICK: Let me, let me get back to—past—the cooperation thing, okay? There are lesser charges that can easily be filed: What’s going to keep me out of p me out of trouble. I’ve already > “* ith that... two ways. I | leading to the delinquency of a minor, as compared to a ed myel / can B® ot eae tet i second-degree felony. You know what I mean? That’s a mis- wn . wee te va against me: - demeanor... . First of all, I'll tell you straight up, okay, we're second- iz ; = ath it and maybe get myself some q | nc ly you to jail today... Id the odds be of you q : FRICK: Well, you're—And here’s the other thing: If you cooper- What would * ntact with oa “iy ate and if we can—lIf you cooperate, whether we pull it off or ? Have me oan lean 4 not—that’s not up to you, that’s up

James PATTERSON is_—it’s a significant thing, okay? Now, you came The question we have for you ting with us and try you, that in, you cooperated. with us. now is, do you want to continue coopera and help us make a case against Jeff? DOBBS: I don’t think that’s really going to run, though. I’ve already admitted to a second- right? FRICK: Yeah, you have. DOBBS: Okay, so there you 0. trouble? It’s not going to keep me out O help me in the long , degree felony, What’s going to keep me out of f trouble. I’ve already admitted committing a crime. FRICK: I’m not going to argue with that.... DOBBS: So basically I just fucked myself. I can go two ways. I can agree not to cooperate, which is going to put me at— well_——now you can use the second-degree felony against me. Or you can help and work with it and maybe get myself some Slack, «x: FRICK: We're still talkin’ here. What would the odds be of you contacting Jeff at this point? Have you had any contact with him at all? DOBBS: | have not had any contact— FRICK: How about with— DOBBS: No, none of ’em. None of ’em.. four or five months ago, and 1 told my parents. Loo to you I’m not anywhere —like, no co all. That’s why | pretty mu ny communication with him. It stopped. not made a FRICK: Okay. Well, I mean, that’s good. Tha stopped. ... [had a phone call about ] k, [swear | nnection with him at 7 ch got my number changed. I have © t’s good that you This is what we'd some of your ex: Now, the questior working for

Fittuy RicH rERSON lear, you wouldn't do mote. RECAREY: Take a deep breath. Take a deep breath. ’Cause I can see youre working up again. You're working up the tears, I s concerned. What did she tell can see it, and I don’t want to get you like that. ait DOBBS: I, um, pretty much I just would ask them — all when she came downstairs RECAREY: Straight up? mites me and her and [redacted], . DOBBS: “If you're looking for extra money, let me know; this guy . hes car. And I-was like, “How down in Palm Beach, he’s really, really, really wealthy. You > “Three hundred dollars.” And I 4 have to give him a massage.” That’s all I would tell them. ww right then she did more. Then, if they were interested or told me, “Yes, 1 want to do it.” right? : I'd go into detail with them before they'd actually agree. If was like, “Well, what'd you do?” : they told me, “Yeah, that sounds good, I’m interested,” then iving a massage, and then my I'd tell them, “Okay, well I’m gonna let you know, this is what ow he put his fingers inside me. ; you have to do, this is what’s gonna go on.” massage r” And that’s basically f ' RECAREY: Did you tell them that you were going to make money from bringing them over? Or— DOBBS: Most part? I believe they knew....Most of the girls, we Ik to me. It’s all right _ were open about that. We didn’t— they pretty much knew I ita : ; re Iking about it, now that I—I was making money under the table. So... talkin ; 4 ce . RECAREY: Okay. Gimme two seconds. Let

JAMES PATTERSON RECAREY: Okay. You made that clear, you wouldnt do mote. ; RECAREY: Take a de DOBBS: No. Screw that! : see you're workir RECAREY: But as far as [Mary] is concerned. What did she tell can see it, andId you that happened in that room? DOBBS: I, um, pretty DOBBS: Exact words? If I can recall, when che came downstairs RECAREY: Straight vu : from—when she came downstairs, me and her and [redacted], f DOBBS: “If you're loo we all walked out. We got ito the car. And Iwas like, “How down in Palm Be much did you make?” She's like, “Three hundred dollars.” And I P have to give him looked at [Mary] and I just knew right then she did more. a Then, if they were | I'd go into detail RECAREY: Than just a massage, right? DOBBS: Yeah. And 1! asked her. I was like, “Well, what'd you do?” She’s like, “Well, I started giving 2 massage, and then my q a Yd tell them, “Ok: clothes came off and, you know, he put his fingers inside me. 4 | you have to do, th And then he brought out the massager.” And that's basically f a RECAREY: Did you te ; from bringing the DOBBS: Most part? I It’s all right. ; “ were open about 1 w that |—l ee was making mone I they told me, “Ye: what she said. 4 RECAREY: It’s all right. You can talk to me. aes, DOBBS: It’s kind of incredible talking about it, no | can't believe I worked for him. b. RECAREY: Okay. Git RECAREY: But it’s okay. You know what, we all go through — b: Gimme two secon things in life, you know what I mean? It’s an experie

rERSON en working for him? for him for a year. rese girls... s I brought. But you have to t other girls, too. tin. It’s like, I introduced him to goes on and on, like that. being fourteen or fifteen at the fourteen when this happened — of all these? mean? elm. w anybody’s real true age? Or he fe told me the younger the better. tter. All right. ow it worked. He didn’t —let me to bring him a woman who was really like it. go for it. He just didn’t care for it. it [are] between the ages of, like, it some of them, | think, lie about : en | started off young, ! think he ; ve me. | think he knew that I was © 60 ; ' nd ~ . AG ' . yer S Wu a. has ae FirtHy RicuH younger — like, seventeen— but I told him I was, like, eigh- teen. Most of those girls lie when they go in there. RECAREY: Let’s talk about [Mary] for a minute. DOBBS: Okay. RECAREY: [Mary] at the time was dating your cousin, right? DOBBS: Mm-hmm. RECAREY: Okay. She told you she needed to make money. Did she know you worked for Jeffrey? DOBBS: I told her. RECAREY: You had told her you worked for Jeffrey. DOBBS: Mm-hmm. RECAREY: Did you tell her what it entailed? So she knew that? DOBBS: She knew everything before she even agreed to it. RECAREY: Okay. So she knew that there was going to have to be some kind of — DOBBS: Contact. Pretty much. Yeah. I told her. I told her exactly what his expectations were. I told her what goes on with the girls that go up there. I told her—it was like, “It’s your